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Poster: rgs_uk Date: Apr 12, 2004 4:36am
Forum: movies Subject: VCD compatible?

I have a DVD player that plays just about every type of MPEG1 and MPEG2 imaginable -- whatever the bitrate and pixel size/height. However many of the files from archive.org will not play at all.

For instance, I just burnt a (none standards compliant) VCD in Nero with the following films on it: Danger Flight, Lying Lips, Open Mind Ep727, Sing A Song of Sixpence and out of all of those only Open Mind will play at all. I have had similar problems with the MPEG2 files int he past.

I don't know why this is, but it is a great shame, because watching on TV is the best way to enjoy these films and who wants to have to re-encode them all.

Also is there any possibility that the MPEG4 files can be made compatible with the XVid codec, instead of having to be viewed with Quicktime, which is a real pain in the ass on a Windows PC?

Having said all of this, I really appreciate the archive very much.

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Poster: FP Date: Apr 12, 2004 2:15pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: VCD compatible?

Of moderate relevance:

APEX is gradually, and haphazardly, phasing out VCD support in its DVD players.

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Poster: rgs_uk Date: Apr 12, 2004 3:46pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: VCD compatible?

Thanks for the replies. I have done quite a lot of experimenting myself, encoding MPEG1 and MPEG2 using TMPGEnc. I am playing on a Pacific 1002w DVD player which the Asda supermarket chain sells. I heard it is the the most popular DVD player in Britain.

What happens is that the files won't even start playing. A while ago I put the MPEG2 version of Perversion For Profit on a CD and that didn't play either.

Yet, as I said, in terms of compatibility with different sizes, formats and bitrates, this is one of the best DVD players around and will play files from an ordinary multisession data CD that hasn't been finalised.

I just loaded a couple of the problem files into VirtualDub and it shows the message 'MPEG: file ended unexpectedly during parsing - file maybe damaged or incomplete'.

However, the files definitely seemed to download and complete OK and didn't have to resume (no facility here for that anyway).

I'll try the Merge and Cut tool in TMPGEnc. That should repair the damaged file end. I'll see if the MPEG1 files work on a CD then.

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Poster: simon c Date: Apr 12, 2004 11:20am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: VCD compatible?

Hey there,

So Rick and especially AV Geek Skip (who digitized most/all of the movies!) would have a better answer for you as to the differing MPEG1 formats. I can point to a great post by The Diabolical Erroneous Monk (!) about the range of MPEG2s available here, though he doesn't really touch on the MPEG1s - I don't know how diverse they are in terms of resolution or bitrate, I'm afraid:

http://www.archive.org/iathreads/post-view.php?id=13563

It would definitely be good if we could label all the MPEG1s that work straight away when burned as VCD, though I don't really know an easy way to do that right now. It may be that running on a computer is the highest priority, but I concur that being able to burn to a DVD-playable disc is also v.important to people.

s!

This post was modified by simon c on 2004-04-12 18:20:00

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Poster: Ryan Schweitzer Date: Apr 24, 2004 2:50pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: VCD compatible?

Well, not to sound like a naysayer here against burning movies from here to VCD for playback in DVD players, but as for myself, I use a dedicated "media pc" hooked up to the internet with a RealMagic Hollywood Plus hardware MPEG card installed (which has an s-video output connected to my TV), and it seems to perfectly play back any flavor/variety/resolution/bitrate of MPEG file I throw at it. And it saves me the step of having to burn it to a VCD/DVD-R, since I can play it back straight off the hard disk to the Hollywood Plus. The Hollywood+, IMHO, is the most streamlined way for viewing MPEGs here...

my 2 cents,
Ryan

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Poster: MarcoEsc Date: Apr 25, 2004 4:35am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: VCD compatible?

Note that the pixel size (aspect ratio) is different on a TV than on a computer. I produce MPEG-1 files that are intended to be burned to VideoCD and played on TVs. When played on a computer with (1:1 sized pizels) things look slightly too wide. On a 3:2 TV (with .9:1 pixel size) everything looks as intended.

I don't know if your PC>TV solution accounts for this. But yes, some of us do still produce VideoCDs with the intent that they be burned and played as VCDs, and my experience is that playing on a computer introduces undesired artifacts.

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Poster: rgs_uk Date: May 4, 2004 10:18am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: VCD compatible?

But most movie players on the PC are able to stretch out MPGs to fill the screen regardless of the pixel ratio anyway. What country are you in with a 3:2 TV format? 4:3 is standard everywhere I know of, with 16:9 widescreen. One problem with playing movies from a PC is the background noise if it is in the same room as the TV.

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Poster: Spuzz Date: Apr 12, 2004 11:51am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: VCD compatible?

Hmmm, I often do VCDs using Nero, with no problem. What happens? Give me details on where you're having problems.. Obviously you're downloading them ok? What happens when you try burning them??

Bill